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Post by dobs4ever on Dec 1, 2011 19:54:40 GMT -5
From DPCA Permission to cross post Starting December 1, 2011 VetGen is offering their group priced DNA vWD test for $75.00. In order to get this price you need to visit this webpage dpca.org/news/vetgen-clinic and order your kit through Tammy Rabold in order to get the group price. There is also a link on the DPCA home page. Please cross post far and wide. Michelle Kramer
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Post by trinitydobes on Dec 1, 2011 20:19:27 GMT -5
Well its about darn time that VetGen has reduce the price of this test - it should have been reduced years ago! I am sure this new reduced GROUP price is a direct reflection of VetNostic only charging $65 for a SINGLE test.
The only benefit I can see - is if its important for you to pay VetGen to publish your test results - but to me in this day and age of scanners - its much cheaper to scan the test and have it avaialble digitally.
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Post by dobs4ever on Dec 2, 2011 9:50:15 GMT -5
I agree and am not a fan of Vet Gen - HOWEVER they do have us over a barrel. Since I show and reg ins several reg and am member of both DPCA and UDC to have official results posted for the CHIC program and UDC FFB I have to have official recognized labs.
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Post by HEXE- TINA on Dec 2, 2011 10:26:44 GMT -5
I got the VWD test already cheaper then that from vetnostic, so why i would pay $ 10 more and think its a deal LMAO
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Post by trinitydobes on Dec 2, 2011 11:50:43 GMT -5
Susan, maybe with VetGen lowering its price - to compete - maybe Vetnostic should be lobbying OFA to accept their DNA results as well - now that might spur some good old fashioned "Free Market" price war - where we the consumer would benefit lol
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Post by dobs4ever on Dec 2, 2011 11:55:55 GMT -5
Vet Gen is co-owned by a DPCA member vet or someone OFA vet if I remember correctly I would have to go back and check to make sure I remember it correctly so don't think you will get the approved labs and tests changed - I agree they should accept any lab but standards are different and they don't want to stand behind something that has not met the same standards with the powers that be approval.
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Post by trinitydobes on Dec 2, 2011 12:05:53 GMT -5
Suzan how are the standards different between the 2 companies - both have DNA tests - and the results of each DNA test is definitive and can not be questioned.
I am doubly angry if a DPCA member is part owner of VetGen because the price charged for this test over the last 11 years has been price gouging as far as I am concerned - and to have a breed supporter or DPCA member be party to this over pricing is just shameful IMHO.
I am so glad that Vetnostics right to conduct and perform their test withstood the law suit by VetGen to try and stop them from competing with a less expensive test
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Post by HEXE- TINA on Dec 2, 2011 13:01:22 GMT -5
Suzan how are the standards different between the 2 companies - both have DNA tests - and the results of each DNA test is definitive and can not be questioned. I am doubly angry if a DPCA member is part owner of VetGen because the price charged for this test over the last 11 years has been price gouging as far as I am concerned - and to have a breed supporter or DPCA member be party to this over pricing is just shameful IMHO. I am so glad that Vetnostics right to conduct and perform their test withstood the law suit by VetGen to try and stop them from competing with a less expensive testI so agree with you on this one Gail, i did the vetnostic test and a DNA test is a DNA test, you get the swapkit and send it in and you get the results, so there is no differnce in the test, only the price is and i prefer the cheaper price for sure. I know Vetgen was asking $ 100 for the same test which cost $65 with vetnostic. Thats $ 35 difference, which i can spend on a bag of dogfood
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Post by dobs4ever on Dec 2, 2011 16:36:25 GMT -5
If everyone read I agree and have not been a strong supporter of Vet Gen BUT if you want a CHIC # or ZTP or the UDC FFB it must be through an approved lab. I don't make the rules but I do want some of my info listed which is my choice.
If you do not show those venue and do not participate in DPCA or UDC special programs then it does not matter
Not all labs have the same standards however and that is why only 2 labs I am aware of are approved. If you want an AKC DNA for parentage verification it must be ordered through AKC for certain test.
If you want the new PDK4 then it has to go back to Dr. Meurs lab.
You can always start your own and get it approved. If you do I would like to put in that I would like all test to cost no more than $40.00 and I would like that fee to include the listing in OFA without having to pay addl to have it listed.
Just let us know when you get it set up - I am ready!!!
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Post by trinitydobes on Dec 3, 2011 19:44:39 GMT -5
There really is just no reason why OFA can't accept results from more than one lab - to me that is the most ridiculous thing
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Post by dobs4ever on Dec 4, 2011 12:45:27 GMT -5
I probably did not make it clear why OFA only recognizes certain labs. YES a DNA test is absolute BUT there are things that can affect the reliablity of the test. Labs are graded on protocol, guidelines on chain of evidence and level of contamination etc. So if one lab has a higher incidence of false positive results it can affect their rating. So in other words if the Labs standards and protocol for running test is not equal to another then they are downgraded.
OFA in an effort to protect the integrity of the results chose to deal with certain labs they feel met their guidelines. That does make it harder for a new lab to get approved and they may feel they don't need to see their approval which might have nothing to do with their protocol.
I think they also wanted to hlep eliminate those who would seek a lab that would give better results which we have all seen happen in different areas. It is why they don't accept your vets grading on OFA's but your vet must sent it to OFA and get official results from them.
It would put your vet in a hard place if you ask him to fudge just a little - That is why the OFA program was established as well as pin hip. They have their rules to help protect the integrity of the program. It does give JQP a sense of protection or security and that might not be the right word.
I am sure Bitten can explain it better than I can on labs.
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