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Post by trouble on Sept 9, 2011 11:13:07 GMT -5
Do list the results of your dogs - thank's  Jotunheim's Ullva [almost 10 years, and still kicking] negative Jotunheim's Idun II [11½ years at time of death] pos.het Aslaug v. Warringhof [6 years, and still kicking ] negative |
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Post by trinitydobes on Sept 9, 2011 11:22:51 GMT -5
Trinity's Guardian Angel - 8 1/2 - Negative
Trinity v Wolf 7 1/2 - Negative
Long Gate Sweet Dream Baby - 2 1/2 Negative
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Post by DeDe on Sept 9, 2011 11:35:37 GMT -5
Catti vom haus Do'Urden - 4 1/2 years - Neg
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Post by Shadowlands on Sept 9, 2011 12:16:28 GMT -5
Panama's Angel N Disguise - 11 months - pos.het
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Post by trouble on Sept 10, 2011 4:29:22 GMT -5
Jotunheim's Thyra - now 15 months - negative
Jotunheim's Thor - now 15 months - pos. het
Jotunheim's Pandora - now 3 years - pos. het
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Post by thallyce on Sept 10, 2011 19:34:01 GMT -5
Give me good reasons why I should do this test if it doesn't say anything about the health of my dogs or the future breeding?? It only makes me want to quit breeding.
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Post by thallyce on Sept 10, 2011 19:45:12 GMT -5
Farinca vom Warringhof - now 4 years- pos. het.
Cinda Ratu Itam vom Waisenhaus- now 8,5 years old- pos. hom.
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Post by trinitydobes on Sept 11, 2011 20:42:04 GMT -5
I tested my dogs in the heat of the moment - the results are now known and its information I now have that might mean more later than it does today. I will test my 3 young dogs as well as a postive homo result would give me great pause as to how, or if I would use this dog in a breeding program. This test may not be predictive - but a Positive Homo result is not good IMHO
I don't intend to do the weiss test - but would like to do the UK test that Bitten was instrumental in developing - that again won't predict progeny - but since we know DCM is a genetically inherited disease - if the parents are predisposed to get DCM - then there is the chance that their progeny may be predisposed as well.
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Post by trouble on Sept 12, 2011 10:31:21 GMT -5
Well I do not know about pos. homo results - as I know of a few dogs with that result, which haven't developed DCM, and I know of additional dogs with this result, which haven't been diagnosed before after the 12th year ...
As it's stated within the result document - a negative dog is just as likely to develope DCM as a pos. home ... something to consider when making decissions.
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Post by HEXE- TINA on Sept 12, 2011 10:38:21 GMT -5
I still have test laying around here, ordered it back then, til people said, it might dosen't make much sense to do it. So tell me, did i should do it or not.
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Post by Shadowlands on Sept 12, 2011 20:57:32 GMT -5
I still have test laying around here, ordered it back then, til people said, it might dosen't make much sense to do it. So tell me, did i should do it or not. In the name of science and data I still feel this test is worth doing. The more data and DNA they have to work with etc, I feel the greater the chance for more discoveries. Just my opinion of course, but you asked.  |
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Post by dobs4ever on Sept 16, 2011 10:02:53 GMT -5
Pamelot's Daredevil 3 1/2- neg
Bearcreek QuinnKastra Top Gun 8 yrs Hetro
Echorun Electrical Storm Brewin 5 yr neg
Dobewan's Reign of Terror 2 neg
Echorun's Black Shadow Fancy Genes 18 months neg
Kye's GiGi Jumped the Gun hetro
Those are my current dogs. I have 2 puppies coming on and I will test. It is info to help them study and better understand what it means or does not mean.
I also know an active 11 yr old Sch III dog that is homo and still going strong so I would not eliminate a homo I would jsut be sure to breed to neg. I think too many put too much faith in this test at this time.
But is does give us more info to study and try to understand.
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Post by luvbirds on Sept 20, 2011 20:06:56 GMT -5
Hismerh Prince Piere *Petey* NEGATIVE
Diagnosed with DCM @ 3 years old, died @ 4 years 9 months old after 20 months of medication and Cardiologist visits.
litter mate Hismerh Prince Eros *Achilles* died 5 weeks before Petey DCM, CHF never tested.
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Post by dobs4ever on Sept 22, 2011 9:01:23 GMT -5
(quote)As it's stated within the result document - a negative dog is just as likely to develope DCM as a pos. home ... something to consider when making decissions. (quote)
Just before this test was released people were all over the board and ready to crucify breeders everywhere based on the test. There was a lot of I will NEVER buy a dog that is not neg and YADA YADA YADA. In her web address at DPCA Natls Dr. Meurs herself said you can't throw out all the dogs because we don't know yet what all factors play a role.
Thanks Bitten for restating so clearly that we should not rush to judgement but use it as best we can until we find out more. There are a lot of factors in a genetic suitcase that come to the table - honestly too many to comprehend and just when we think we know it comes up to bite us.
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