Post by trinitydobes on Aug 15, 2011 19:30:36 GMT -5
Countdown Puppies - Litter #1 Trinity Dobes
Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:11 pm by TrinityDobes
Trinity's Long Gate Honey aka Jazmine was bred to Trinity's Guardian Angel and today is Day 37 or 39 in an average 63 day gestation. Pups can be whelped as early as day 58 or as late as day 65 and its still within the realm of normal. Usually at day 30 to 35, I am looking and looking and thinking DAMN she is not pregnant, and then around Day 40 to day 45 you can quit holding your breath and say with confidence that the breeding "took". Jazmine is tall girl and because she is at the top of the standard she has a long body - bitches are allowed to be 5% longer than tall. or almost 2 inches longer. you will see in the photos I am happy to report Jaz is looking very pregnant.
I took photos this am of Jaz for Katja wearing her fancy new show collar and leash. I purchased one matching show collar and leash set(thanks to a friendly contribution who was tired of seeing me show in mis-matched gear *LOL*) and then I won one set from Katja's Euro Dog Designs. So now Jaz and Lestat do not have to share!
So far things are progressing beautifully with Jazmine - totally normal except that her tolerance for the rough house play with the younger pups is not as high as before being bred. At this point we are pretty much home bodies except or walks once a week at the wonderful park in Culpeper. We will keep our paws crossed that things continue on blissfully normal - I will try and do photos again in about 10 days and then I will send a photo or two when I take her to be xrayed about day 55 or 56.
PS - the photo of two dogs is of Lestat and Raven each modeling their new show collars for Euro Dog Designs! Lestat is on the left and Jazmine is on the right as if you could miss that belly that even from the front is looking rather large lol
Jazmine Sitting
Jazmine Standing
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:28 pm by Apollo
First of all congrats Gail and if you can't see she is pregnant, then i don't know. LOL
Look at her boobies, gezz there goes the young girl figure, hehehehe
And both are looking great in the new gear. Thanks so much for the pics
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:30 pm by jaxman
Congratulations Grandma Gail. What wonderful news for you. Wishing you all the best Jaz and good luck with everything. Oh goodie, gonna be more puppy pics, whoopee!
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:39 pm by 4Dobies
Congratulations Gail! Looks like you are going to be a busy lady real soon.
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:23 pm by BreesMom
Congrats Gail!! Can't wait fo more puppy pictures
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:16 pm by Cathynu
Congratulations to a soon to be very busy Dobe Parent!!!
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:02 pm by RavenandDamon
Congratulations Gail on the up and coming litter of puplettes! I think she looks stunning all a new dober mom glow!
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:29 pm by Shadowlands
Congratulations!! Whooohooo!! Can't wait for all of those baby pics!! Can almost smell the puppy breath.
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:57 pm by Daynieto
Congrats ! she is looking very pregnant and beautiful !
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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:10 pm by Sisko
Congratulations. She is a real beauty .
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:55 am by Damasyn
chubbola ! lol
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:34 am by TrinityDobes
Kim I agree - she has always been an "easy" keeper....like me lol - but now that she is eating for 8 to 10 hehehehe I have bumped her food as the pregnancy has progressed - but "chubbola" is a pretty accurate statement at this point - wait til the next photo though - you will see a big change!
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:06 pm by Damasyn
yep, she gonna be bursting at the seams
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:56 pm by Dobs4ever
Congrats GAil on the upcoming litter. I have learned if you put them in a sit and look directly at their belly between their legs I can always tell by day 30 that they are bred!!! Can't wait to see the babies!!!
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:25 pm by GemmasMomma
Uber Congratulations Grama!! another litter, another brief moment of puppy breath bliss and they will be grown and gone before you know it! sniff sniff.. they grow up so fast!! how exciting for you and may it be a breeze of a birth and a whole passel of portly puppies to play with for about 10 weeks!
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Posted Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:41 pm by TrinityDobes
End of Week 7 Update - Jazmine is getting obviously heavier - she is sleeping a lot and she has no patience for the pups (1 year olds) constant nagging - play with me, play with me, play with me - saw her for the first time EVER - snap and growl at Raven - cheeky lil pup deserved it too - a week from today we will go to be xrayed and try and count how many pups there are.
Today in Gestation she is Day 47-49 I thought it would be interesting for you to see the development Timeline for pups
PREGNANCY TIMELINE
Week One
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Fertilization occurs
+ 2 cell embryos are in the oviduct
+ The embryo is fairly resistant to external interference in development
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Possible morning sickness
+ Possible personality changes
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Normal feeding
+ Check any and all medications with vet prior to administering
+ No insecticides (i.e., flea treatments)
+ No live vaccines
TO DO LIST
+ Put together pedigree on litter
+ Write contract
+ Contact AKC for litter registration application
+ Start taking puppy reservations
Week Two (Days 8-14)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Embryo will be 4 cell at start of week and 64 cell by end of week
+ Embryo enters the uterus
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Possible morning sickness
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Continue as with Week One
TO DO LIST
+ Nothing special this week
Week Three (Days 15-21)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Day 19 -- Implantation of embryos in uterus
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ See above
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ See above
TO DO LIST
+ Nothing special this week
Week Four (Days 22-28)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Development of eyes and spinal cords
+ Faces take shape
+ Fetuses grow from 5-10 mm to 14-15 mm
+ Organogenesis begins-- Embryos are at their most susceptible to defects
+ Days 26 - 32 are the best days to palpitate (i.e.. feel for the puppies)
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Possible clear vaginal discharge
+ Mammary development begins
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ After Day 26, palpitation may be possible to diagnose pregnancy
+ Limit strenuous activity (such as working, jumping, long runs)
+ Add 1/4 cup cottage cheese or a hard boiled egg to food on alternating days
TO DO LIST
+ Schedule ultrasound or palpitation with vet if desired
Week Five (Days 29-35)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Development of toes, whisker buds, and claws
+ Fetuses look like dogs
+ Gender can be determined
+ Eyes (previously open) now close
+ Fetuses grow from 18 mm - 30 mm
+ Organogenesis ends -- embryos are fairly resistant to interference with development
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Swelling becomes noticeable
+ Loss of "tuck-up"
+ Weight will start to increase
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Slightly increase amount of food and switch to puppy kibble. If you feed one meal a day, add an extra meal. If you feed twice a day, slightly increase one of the meals.
+ Add daily multi-vitamin
+ Palpitation no longer possible due to fluids in uterus
TO DO LIST
+ Nothing special this week
Week Six (Days 36-42)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Development of skin pigment
+ Fetuses should weigh around 6 grams and be 45 mm long
+ Fetal heartbeats can be heard with stethoscope
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Nipples darken and enlarge
+ Abdomen continues to enlarge
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Add cottage cheese or hard boiled egg to food daily
+ Increase the amount of food in the extra meal
+ Bitch should start sleeping in whelping box
TO DO LIST
+ Assemble whelping box
+ By this time you should be fairly sure that the bitch is pregnant. Notify the people on your puppy list. Let them know when you expect delivery.
Today is Jaz is at the end of Week Seven (Days 43-49)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Growth and development continues
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Abdomen hair will start shedding (Check)
+ The bitch will start to look pregnant at this point (LOL uh YEP *check*)
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Slightly increase both meals (Check - plus adding liver to the hard boild egg she has been receiving the last week)
TO DO LIST
+ Stop any roughhousing or jumping (CHECK lol)
+ Radiographs (X-rays) possible to determine number and size of puppies (scheduled for next week when skeleton is more calcified)
Next Week Eight (Days 50-57)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Fetal movement can be detected when bitch is at rest
+ Puppies can safely be born from now on
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Milk may be squeezed from nipples
+ The bitch will be very large.
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Add moderate lunch
TO DO LIST
+ Gather whelping kit (see below)
+ Prepare phone list for help/support. It should include your vet's phone number, the emergency clinic's phone number, the number of any friends who will be offering support during whelping, and anyone else you might need to contact before, during, or after whelping (like your office to let them know you won't be in!)
+ Make sure your car is gassed up and ready for a possible emergency trip to the vet's office.
Week Nine (Days 58-65)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Growth and Development continues
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Nesting behavior may be seen
+ Bitch may become distressed (panting, pacing, acting uncomfortable)
+ Temperature should be around 100.2-100.8 degrees Farenheit
+ When temperature drops to around 98-99.4 degrees Farenheit, puppies should be born within 24 hours
+ Appetite may disappear as whelping approaches
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Start taking temperature three times a day
TO DO LIST
+ Notify vet or emergency clinic when temperature drops so that they will be ready if you have any problems
+ Keep detailed records on temperature and behavior of bitch
+ Double check that whelping supplies are ready
Photos taken todayn Day 57 - already HOT as HELL @ 9 am!
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Posted Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:03 pm by Apollo
Thanks for posting the developments gail, veru interessting and Holly cow, she is already HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I hope she just has big puppies and not a extreme big litter, i hope so for you LMAO
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Posted Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:35 pm by BreesMom
OMG Gail keep her on level ground and she hasn't much ground clearance with that belly LOL!!!
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Posted Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:34 pm by Daynieto
Very interesting info Gail , definitely breeding is not for everyone , you are going to be busy , do you have help? Or are you alone with all of this ?
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Posted Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:39 pm by TrinityDobes
Day I am alone - here at the house - the girls and I have gotten it down to a pretty good routine - last litter though I was alone here at the house - I had the webcam on and several people kept me company on Yahoo Messanger Video Conference!! that was great - I even got to take a little nap and Nellie could talk to me and say "Wake up Gail - Looks like she is starting to push again "!! that was the best help!
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Posted Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:48 pm by Monkey Madness
great info here Gail. I cant wait until delivery day
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Posted Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:22 pm by DeDe
UPDATE!*!*!*!*!*!*
Jazmine weighed in at 99 pounds today and x-ray showed 9-12 puppies! WOO-HOO! Congrats to Gail and Jazmine.
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Posted Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:08 pm by PrettyFeetsMom
DeDe you did a great job for a secretary of a secretary, LOL. Yes, Gail is going nuts with no internet and asked me to post this but I had faith in you getting it up even before me !!! CONGRATS to Gail & Jazmine !!!
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Posted Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:43 pm by RavenandDamon
YYYAAYY Jazzy!! Can't wait to see the pups.. who knows maybe there will be a red/brown one in there heheh
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:26 am by Apollo
HOLy molly, poor Jazz she is one big seecow now LMAO and Gail will has her handful with a big litter like that and if trinity has a big one too, then i just hope our Gail Biatch is ready for that
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:43 pm by von Cosack
She looks to over weight to me, I would take some weight off her before i breed her. Shes cute fat but I like em kinda trim and muscley, is that a word? Oh well Liberace is looking good nice and trim not fat like the other dog, can he drive a car yet? Don't trust him backing up, they all say they can but non of them are good at it. Had a coon hound that could back up a car she was fat like your dog too. Oh well see ya! Von
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:35 pm by DreamValley
When is the approx. delivery day? I can not wait to see adorable puppies!
Gail thanks for Jasmine's pregnancy development information.... very interesting.
Waiting for more updates...
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:14 pm by Penkeepe
Based on the dates she posted it looks like August 5th would be a good approx.
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:40 pm by TrinityDobes
ok - back on line - keeping it real and flashing back 10 years to some "old school" on-line experiences lol - so we are on dial up! but that is better than being off line -
Today Jazmine is day 55 to 57 (1st day bred) On average gestation is 63 days - but any time after day 58 "usually" the pups can be safely born after day 58. The longer the gestation, the bigger the pups and the more developed everyone will be.
Von I know Jaz looks fat - but if you could put your hands on her and look down over yer back - there is hardly any flesh or any fat over her back bone - I can feel every vertebral bump - and the same with her ribs - Its been hard ensuring she has enough condition, so post whelping when she does not want to eat that she does not get pulled too far down - this large a litter will be a huge pull on her body to meet her own needs and the demands of milk supply with all these guys pulling on her nursing - I always supplement when there are more than 8 pups - but still - its always a tight rope to have the bitch in good condition, not too thin, not too fat.
Here is a photo of jaz yesterday when we got home from the vet Day 57
here is a photo of the xray - all those little railroad track things are puppy spines
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:53 pm by Daynieto
oh wow ! i have never seen anything like it ! railroad track ha , zippers , cool !
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:46 pm by Cathynu
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!! I have never been around or seen a female dog about to have pups!!! Thank you so much for posting the development stages as well as the photo's .... In about 2 years from now, I hope to be able to watch my very own girl produce her first litter .... and I'm going to need ALL THE HELP I can from my esteemed friends on this site!!! Good luck with the birth Gail!!! I know you are going to be very, very busy!!
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Posted Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:08 pm by Rits
That's a lot of pups! Very cool! Looking forward to following you guys along.
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Posted Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:22 pm by 4Dobies
Oooh! Any day now!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:21 am by Damasyn
Holy, shmoleys ! MOOOO ve over ! Shes gonna need a trailer house to have all those pups in ! Just like a roly poly weeble wabble...if she falls down, its gonna take a crane to lift her ! Poor thing, I bet she is miserable !
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:04 am by Apollo
wow Gail has a manatie at her house LOl and look all the zippers she has in her Belly.....
Can't wait to see those little ones.
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:39 am by TrinityDobes
Well looks like not much more waiting time til we get to meet these puppies - she is panting a bit adn grunting a bit - so we maybe starting into labor - will be doing the updates w/photos on FB
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:00 pm by BreesMom
Oh how exiting...she was a good girl and let you sleep....nice if it was all over by bedtime tonite
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:02 pm by Monkey Madness
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm FB pics. Im not on there lol
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:59 pm by Penkeepe
And it begins....1st pup, black female 13.4 oz, born at 12;12 pm
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:36 pm by Rits
Oooohh, ixnay my post in the Java thread. It can most definitely wait. Did not realize the time is NOW! How exciting...sitting on the edge of my seat for you.
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:21 pm by Damasyn
wooohoooo !!! THAR SHE BLOWS !!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:39 pm by DeDe
Pup #2: Black male, 12:50 pm, 15.5 oz
Pup #3: BROWN Female!!! YEAH!!! 2:09 pm, 12oz!!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:42 pm by DeDe
Plus 2 more boys! Both black! Mr. Green at 15.8 oz, 2:45 pm, and mr. Orange at 14.1 oz, 2:55 pm!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:02 pm by Deathmetal
Thanks for the update! Are there pics on FB? I can't wait to get home to see her updates, they must be SO cute. Poor moms gotta be exhusted, got awhile to go yet!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:05 pm by DeDe
Gail? NOT have pics? Are you friggin' kidding?
? LOL
At least Miss Gail FINALLY has her BROWN!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:11 pm by Deathmetal
You mean red, right?
...........*ducks*
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:21 pm by DeDe
#6: Mr. Brown, 3:56 pm, 13.7 oz!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:21 pm by DeDe
You better duck Missy!!!!!! LOL
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:04 pm by DeDe
#7: Female, Ms Purple, 4:30pm 13.7 oz!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:21 pm by Monkey Madness
DeDe wrote:#7: Female, Ms Purple, 4:30pm No weight yet.
purple Dobe what is Gail up to
Thanks for the updates Nellie and Dede. I look forward to some pics Gail when time allows/
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:37 pm by Rits
Things look like they are goin well and pups being born on time. Crossin fingers that everything continues to run smoothly.
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:45 pm by Shadowlands
Yaaaayyyy!!! Gail FINALLY gets her long awaited BROWN girl!!! Whooohoooooo!!!!
Congrats Gail and of course Jazmine. Keep up the good work ladies!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:07 pm by PrettyFeetsMom
CONGRATS, Gail, geesh just got home, been gone all day and boy look what I have missed!!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:13 pm by PrettyFeetsMom
Monkey Madness wrote:
DeDe wrote:#7: Female, Ms Purple, 4:30pm No weight yet.
Prple Dobe what is Gail up to
Thanks for the updates Nellie and Dede. I look forward to some pics Gail when time allows/
That's is one of those VERY RARE Purple Dobes, geesh can't believe you've never heard of those, LMAO , so can we tell us the real color please !!!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:33 pm by Penkeepe
11: pm UPDATE
Jaz is holding at 7 delivered pups. There is one that is holding up the works and Jaz just can't get it out so she and Gail are on their way to the vet. Stay tuned for Gail's report in the morning.
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:56 am by Apollo
PrettyFeetsMom wrote:
Monkey Madness wrote:
DeDe wrote:#7: Female, Ms Purple, 4:30pm No weight yet.
purple Dobe what is Gail up to
Thanks for the updates Nellie and Dede. I look forward to some pics Gail when time allows/
That's is one of those VERY RARE Purple Dobes, geesh can't believe you've never heard of those, LMAO , so can we tell us the real color please !!!!
\Ms purple was black
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:57 am by Apollo
Penkeepe wrote:11: pm UPDATE
Jaz is holding at 7 delivered pups. There is one that is holding up the works and Jaz just can't get it out so she and Gail are on their way to the vet. Stay tuned for Gail's report in the morning.
OMG hope everything is ok, just got back home and looking for an update
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:42 am by PrettyFeetsMom
ATTENTION.........HOT OFF THE PRESS .......Gail's Big Adventure !!!
Proud Parents Jazmine & Baron Welcome a baker's dozen !!!
#1-black girl
#2-black boy
#3-brown girl
#4-black boy
#5-black boy
#6-black boy
#7-black girl
#8- brown girl that was stuck in the pipe, did not survive
#9-black boy
#10-brown boy
#11-brown boy
#12-black boy born at 2:38, Gail thought this probably was the last but Jaz had other ideas.
And finally last but not least:
Lucky #13-black girl born @ 3:18 a.m
After # 8 was removed the rest slid down the pipe just fine avoiding a C-Cection Jaz is doing great....very tired but well....Way to go Jaz !!!
So unless Gail tells me otherwise, this is Lisa signing out from live puppy feed !!!
So with it now being 3:36 in the morning and Gail just leaving the vet.....PLEASE let her make first contact this morning after so very well deserved rest.
HEAVENS TO BETSY.....Gail just called, they x-rayed Jaz and looks like Jaz ain't finished yet ! #14 is about 1/2 way from it's arrival. Will update with details when Gail makes it back to her car and on the way home. Looks like to sun will be rising before she makes it home !!!
ý# 14 brown girl born around 5:15 a.m THE END
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:13 am by Penkeepe
Thanks Lisa - thank goodness no C-section was needed. Poor Gail and Jaz, they must be pooped.
Is this one of those cases of 'be careful what you ask for'??
CONGRATULATIONS TO GAIL AND JAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It will be fun to watch these little ones grow.
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:33 am by RavenandDamon
Congratulations to Gail, Jaz and Baron!!! WOW WOW WOW on all those browns!!!! Gail will have 2 brown girls to pick from!!!
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:55 am by Deathmetal
Congrats on all the cute pups!
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:17 am by Rits
Congrats Gail and Jaz! That's a lotta pups!! Can't wait to see pics when you're all well rested and caught up.
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:31 am by Damasyn
And now the hard part begins lol . Congrats ! and my sympathies
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Posted Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:57 pm by TrinityDobes
I am back among the living... sort of *lol* besides feeling like I was hit by a bus I am doing well -n Jaz is doing an amazing job looking after this HUGE family of 13 puppies - for a first time mom - she read the book! Thank goodness. We did loose the one little girl but what a blessing of great abundance to have everyone else come through in great condition - we are on the rotation schedule switching pups every hour today -
Thank you to my secretary Lisa on taking the over the telephone reports from the front line at the ER hospital!!!
I don't know who groaned louder me, the vet or Jaz when the "just to be sure we are done xray" revealed we had one more puppy in there!
So the adventure continued after poor Lisa had gone to bed!!! another shot of oxytocin was given and last but not least Lucky #14 - a brown girl born at 4:20 am!!
we have a total of 4 girls - 2 black/rust and 2 brown/rust (I am keeping one of these brown girls)
we have a total of 9 boys - 7 black/rust adn 2 brown/rust
I was totally shocked and beyond pleased with the arrival of brown pups its been over 10 years since my last brown puppies!! it was such a wonderful surprise! here is a photo of the whole litter taken this am
and for those on FB I am uploading photos pretty www.trinitydobermans.com/Jaz_Puppy_Photos.php
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Posted Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:23 pm by Cathynu
Wowie congratulations to Gail and new mom ..... I know you felt blessed after they'd all arrived and everyone was doing well!!! Jaz looks like such a good mom .... sure got her paws full!!
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Posted Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:31 pm by BreesMom
Such a nice picture of Mom and babies...just a beautiful BIG litter!!!! And you at last have your brown pup ....that Jazz was just FULL of suprises
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Posted Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:13 pm by Damasyn
Hhehehe, now she can start working on her girlish figure again lol awwwwww
Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:11 pm by TrinityDobes
Trinity's Long Gate Honey aka Jazmine was bred to Trinity's Guardian Angel and today is Day 37 or 39 in an average 63 day gestation. Pups can be whelped as early as day 58 or as late as day 65 and its still within the realm of normal. Usually at day 30 to 35, I am looking and looking and thinking DAMN she is not pregnant, and then around Day 40 to day 45 you can quit holding your breath and say with confidence that the breeding "took". Jazmine is tall girl and because she is at the top of the standard she has a long body - bitches are allowed to be 5% longer than tall. or almost 2 inches longer. you will see in the photos I am happy to report Jaz is looking very pregnant.
I took photos this am of Jaz for Katja wearing her fancy new show collar and leash. I purchased one matching show collar and leash set(thanks to a friendly contribution who was tired of seeing me show in mis-matched gear *LOL*) and then I won one set from Katja's Euro Dog Designs. So now Jaz and Lestat do not have to share!
So far things are progressing beautifully with Jazmine - totally normal except that her tolerance for the rough house play with the younger pups is not as high as before being bred. At this point we are pretty much home bodies except or walks once a week at the wonderful park in Culpeper. We will keep our paws crossed that things continue on blissfully normal - I will try and do photos again in about 10 days and then I will send a photo or two when I take her to be xrayed about day 55 or 56.
PS - the photo of two dogs is of Lestat and Raven each modeling their new show collars for Euro Dog Designs! Lestat is on the left and Jazmine is on the right as if you could miss that belly that even from the front is looking rather large lol
Jazmine Sitting
Jazmine Standing
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First of all congrats Gail and if you can't see she is pregnant, then i don't know. LOL
Look at her boobies, gezz there goes the young girl figure, hehehehe
And both are looking great in the new gear. Thanks so much for the pics
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:30 pm by jaxman
Congratulations Grandma Gail. What wonderful news for you. Wishing you all the best Jaz and good luck with everything. Oh goodie, gonna be more puppy pics, whoopee!
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:39 pm by 4Dobies
Congratulations Gail! Looks like you are going to be a busy lady real soon.
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:23 pm by BreesMom
Congrats Gail!! Can't wait fo more puppy pictures
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:16 pm by Cathynu
Congratulations to a soon to be very busy Dobe Parent!!!
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:02 pm by RavenandDamon
Congratulations Gail on the up and coming litter of puplettes! I think she looks stunning all a new dober mom glow!
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:29 pm by Shadowlands
Congratulations!! Whooohooo!! Can't wait for all of those baby pics!! Can almost smell the puppy breath.
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:57 pm by Daynieto
Congrats ! she is looking very pregnant and beautiful !
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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:10 pm by Sisko
Congratulations. She is a real beauty .
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:55 am by Damasyn
chubbola ! lol
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:34 am by TrinityDobes
Kim I agree - she has always been an "easy" keeper....like me lol - but now that she is eating for 8 to 10 hehehehe I have bumped her food as the pregnancy has progressed - but "chubbola" is a pretty accurate statement at this point - wait til the next photo though - you will see a big change!
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:06 pm by Damasyn
yep, she gonna be bursting at the seams
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:56 pm by Dobs4ever
Congrats GAil on the upcoming litter. I have learned if you put them in a sit and look directly at their belly between their legs I can always tell by day 30 that they are bred!!! Can't wait to see the babies!!!
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:25 pm by GemmasMomma
Uber Congratulations Grama!! another litter, another brief moment of puppy breath bliss and they will be grown and gone before you know it! sniff sniff.. they grow up so fast!! how exciting for you and may it be a breeze of a birth and a whole passel of portly puppies to play with for about 10 weeks!
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Posted Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:41 pm by TrinityDobes
End of Week 7 Update - Jazmine is getting obviously heavier - she is sleeping a lot and she has no patience for the pups (1 year olds) constant nagging - play with me, play with me, play with me - saw her for the first time EVER - snap and growl at Raven - cheeky lil pup deserved it too - a week from today we will go to be xrayed and try and count how many pups there are.
Today in Gestation she is Day 47-49 I thought it would be interesting for you to see the development Timeline for pups
PREGNANCY TIMELINE
Week One
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Fertilization occurs
+ 2 cell embryos are in the oviduct
+ The embryo is fairly resistant to external interference in development
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Possible morning sickness
+ Possible personality changes
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Normal feeding
+ Check any and all medications with vet prior to administering
+ No insecticides (i.e., flea treatments)
+ No live vaccines
TO DO LIST
+ Put together pedigree on litter
+ Write contract
+ Contact AKC for litter registration application
+ Start taking puppy reservations
Week Two (Days 8-14)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Embryo will be 4 cell at start of week and 64 cell by end of week
+ Embryo enters the uterus
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Possible morning sickness
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Continue as with Week One
TO DO LIST
+ Nothing special this week
Week Three (Days 15-21)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Day 19 -- Implantation of embryos in uterus
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ See above
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ See above
TO DO LIST
+ Nothing special this week
Week Four (Days 22-28)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Development of eyes and spinal cords
+ Faces take shape
+ Fetuses grow from 5-10 mm to 14-15 mm
+ Organogenesis begins-- Embryos are at their most susceptible to defects
+ Days 26 - 32 are the best days to palpitate (i.e.. feel for the puppies)
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Possible clear vaginal discharge
+ Mammary development begins
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ After Day 26, palpitation may be possible to diagnose pregnancy
+ Limit strenuous activity (such as working, jumping, long runs)
+ Add 1/4 cup cottage cheese or a hard boiled egg to food on alternating days
TO DO LIST
+ Schedule ultrasound or palpitation with vet if desired
Week Five (Days 29-35)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Development of toes, whisker buds, and claws
+ Fetuses look like dogs
+ Gender can be determined
+ Eyes (previously open) now close
+ Fetuses grow from 18 mm - 30 mm
+ Organogenesis ends -- embryos are fairly resistant to interference with development
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Swelling becomes noticeable
+ Loss of "tuck-up"
+ Weight will start to increase
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Slightly increase amount of food and switch to puppy kibble. If you feed one meal a day, add an extra meal. If you feed twice a day, slightly increase one of the meals.
+ Add daily multi-vitamin
+ Palpitation no longer possible due to fluids in uterus
TO DO LIST
+ Nothing special this week
Week Six (Days 36-42)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Development of skin pigment
+ Fetuses should weigh around 6 grams and be 45 mm long
+ Fetal heartbeats can be heard with stethoscope
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Nipples darken and enlarge
+ Abdomen continues to enlarge
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Add cottage cheese or hard boiled egg to food daily
+ Increase the amount of food in the extra meal
+ Bitch should start sleeping in whelping box
TO DO LIST
+ Assemble whelping box
+ By this time you should be fairly sure that the bitch is pregnant. Notify the people on your puppy list. Let them know when you expect delivery.
Today is Jaz is at the end of Week Seven (Days 43-49)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Growth and development continues
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Abdomen hair will start shedding (Check)
+ The bitch will start to look pregnant at this point (LOL uh YEP *check*)
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Slightly increase both meals (Check - plus adding liver to the hard boild egg she has been receiving the last week)
TO DO LIST
+ Stop any roughhousing or jumping (CHECK lol)
+ Radiographs (X-rays) possible to determine number and size of puppies (scheduled for next week when skeleton is more calcified)
Next Week Eight (Days 50-57)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Fetal movement can be detected when bitch is at rest
+ Puppies can safely be born from now on
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Milk may be squeezed from nipples
+ The bitch will be very large.
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Add moderate lunch
TO DO LIST
+ Gather whelping kit (see below)
+ Prepare phone list for help/support. It should include your vet's phone number, the emergency clinic's phone number, the number of any friends who will be offering support during whelping, and anyone else you might need to contact before, during, or after whelping (like your office to let them know you won't be in!)
+ Make sure your car is gassed up and ready for a possible emergency trip to the vet's office.
Week Nine (Days 58-65)
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUPPIES
+ Growth and Development continues
CHANGES IN THE BITCH
+ Nesting behavior may be seen
+ Bitch may become distressed (panting, pacing, acting uncomfortable)
+ Temperature should be around 100.2-100.8 degrees Farenheit
+ When temperature drops to around 98-99.4 degrees Farenheit, puppies should be born within 24 hours
+ Appetite may disappear as whelping approaches
CARE OF THE BITCH
+ Start taking temperature three times a day
TO DO LIST
+ Notify vet or emergency clinic when temperature drops so that they will be ready if you have any problems
+ Keep detailed records on temperature and behavior of bitch
+ Double check that whelping supplies are ready
Photos taken todayn Day 57 - already HOT as HELL @ 9 am!
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Posted Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:03 pm by Apollo
Thanks for posting the developments gail, veru interessting and Holly cow, she is already HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I hope she just has big puppies and not a extreme big litter, i hope so for you LMAO
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Posted Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:35 pm by BreesMom
OMG Gail keep her on level ground and she hasn't much ground clearance with that belly LOL!!!
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Posted Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:34 pm by Daynieto
Very interesting info Gail , definitely breeding is not for everyone , you are going to be busy , do you have help? Or are you alone with all of this ?
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Posted Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:39 pm by TrinityDobes
Day I am alone - here at the house - the girls and I have gotten it down to a pretty good routine - last litter though I was alone here at the house - I had the webcam on and several people kept me company on Yahoo Messanger Video Conference!! that was great - I even got to take a little nap and Nellie could talk to me and say "Wake up Gail - Looks like she is starting to push again "!! that was the best help!
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Posted Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:48 pm by Monkey Madness
great info here Gail. I cant wait until delivery day
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Posted Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:22 pm by DeDe
UPDATE!*!*!*!*!*!*
Jazmine weighed in at 99 pounds today and x-ray showed 9-12 puppies! WOO-HOO! Congrats to Gail and Jazmine.
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Posted Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:08 pm by PrettyFeetsMom
DeDe you did a great job for a secretary of a secretary, LOL. Yes, Gail is going nuts with no internet and asked me to post this but I had faith in you getting it up even before me !!! CONGRATS to Gail & Jazmine !!!
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Posted Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:43 pm by RavenandDamon
YYYAAYY Jazzy!! Can't wait to see the pups.. who knows maybe there will be a red/brown one in there heheh
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:26 am by Apollo
DeDe wrote:UPDATE!*!*!*!*!*!* Jazmine weighed in at 99 pounds today and x-ray showed 9-12 puppies! WOO-HOO! Congrats to Gail and Jazmine.
HOLy molly, poor Jazz she is one big seecow now LMAO and Gail will has her handful with a big litter like that and if trinity has a big one too, then i just hope our Gail Biatch is ready for that
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:43 pm by von Cosack
She looks to over weight to me, I would take some weight off her before i breed her. Shes cute fat but I like em kinda trim and muscley, is that a word? Oh well Liberace is looking good nice and trim not fat like the other dog, can he drive a car yet? Don't trust him backing up, they all say they can but non of them are good at it. Had a coon hound that could back up a car she was fat like your dog too. Oh well see ya! Von
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:35 pm by DreamValley
When is the approx. delivery day? I can not wait to see adorable puppies!
Gail thanks for Jasmine's pregnancy development information.... very interesting.
Waiting for more updates...
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:14 pm by Penkeepe
Based on the dates she posted it looks like August 5th would be a good approx.
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:40 pm by TrinityDobes
ok - back on line - keeping it real and flashing back 10 years to some "old school" on-line experiences lol - so we are on dial up! but that is better than being off line -
Today Jazmine is day 55 to 57 (1st day bred) On average gestation is 63 days - but any time after day 58 "usually" the pups can be safely born after day 58. The longer the gestation, the bigger the pups and the more developed everyone will be.
Von I know Jaz looks fat - but if you could put your hands on her and look down over yer back - there is hardly any flesh or any fat over her back bone - I can feel every vertebral bump - and the same with her ribs - Its been hard ensuring she has enough condition, so post whelping when she does not want to eat that she does not get pulled too far down - this large a litter will be a huge pull on her body to meet her own needs and the demands of milk supply with all these guys pulling on her nursing - I always supplement when there are more than 8 pups - but still - its always a tight rope to have the bitch in good condition, not too thin, not too fat.
Here is a photo of jaz yesterday when we got home from the vet Day 57
here is a photo of the xray - all those little railroad track things are puppy spines
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:53 pm by Daynieto
oh wow ! i have never seen anything like it ! railroad track ha , zippers , cool !
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Posted Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:46 pm by Cathynu
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!! I have never been around or seen a female dog about to have pups!!! Thank you so much for posting the development stages as well as the photo's .... In about 2 years from now, I hope to be able to watch my very own girl produce her first litter .... and I'm going to need ALL THE HELP I can from my esteemed friends on this site!!! Good luck with the birth Gail!!! I know you are going to be very, very busy!!
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Posted Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:08 pm by Rits
That's a lot of pups! Very cool! Looking forward to following you guys along.
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Posted Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:22 pm by 4Dobies
Oooh! Any day now!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:21 am by Damasyn
Holy, shmoleys ! MOOOO ve over ! Shes gonna need a trailer house to have all those pups in ! Just like a roly poly weeble wabble...if she falls down, its gonna take a crane to lift her ! Poor thing, I bet she is miserable !
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:04 am by Apollo
wow Gail has a manatie at her house LOl and look all the zippers she has in her Belly.....
Can't wait to see those little ones.
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:39 am by TrinityDobes
Well looks like not much more waiting time til we get to meet these puppies - she is panting a bit adn grunting a bit - so we maybe starting into labor - will be doing the updates w/photos on FB
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:00 pm by BreesMom
Oh how exiting...she was a good girl and let you sleep....nice if it was all over by bedtime tonite
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:02 pm by Monkey Madness
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm FB pics. Im not on there lol
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:59 pm by Penkeepe
And it begins....1st pup, black female 13.4 oz, born at 12;12 pm
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:36 pm by Rits
Oooohh, ixnay my post in the Java thread. It can most definitely wait. Did not realize the time is NOW! How exciting...sitting on the edge of my seat for you.
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:21 pm by Damasyn
wooohoooo !!! THAR SHE BLOWS !!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:39 pm by DeDe
Pup #2: Black male, 12:50 pm, 15.5 oz
Pup #3: BROWN Female!!! YEAH!!! 2:09 pm, 12oz!!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:42 pm by DeDe
Plus 2 more boys! Both black! Mr. Green at 15.8 oz, 2:45 pm, and mr. Orange at 14.1 oz, 2:55 pm!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:02 pm by Deathmetal
Thanks for the update! Are there pics on FB? I can't wait to get home to see her updates, they must be SO cute. Poor moms gotta be exhusted, got awhile to go yet!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:05 pm by DeDe
Gail? NOT have pics? Are you friggin' kidding?
? LOLAt least Miss Gail FINALLY has her BROWN!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:11 pm by Deathmetal
You mean red, right?
...........*ducks*
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:21 pm by DeDe
#6: Mr. Brown, 3:56 pm, 13.7 oz!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:21 pm by DeDe
You better duck Missy!!!!!! LOL
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:04 pm by DeDe
#7: Female, Ms Purple, 4:30pm 13.7 oz!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:21 pm by Monkey Madness
DeDe wrote:#7: Female, Ms Purple, 4:30pm No weight yet.
purple Dobe what is Gail up to
Thanks for the updates Nellie and Dede. I look forward to some pics Gail when time allows/
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:37 pm by Rits
Things look like they are goin well and pups being born on time. Crossin fingers that everything continues to run smoothly.
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:45 pm by Shadowlands
Yaaaayyyy!!! Gail FINALLY gets her long awaited BROWN girl!!! Whooohoooooo!!!!
Congrats Gail and of course Jazmine. Keep up the good work ladies!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:07 pm by PrettyFeetsMom
CONGRATS, Gail, geesh just got home, been gone all day and boy look what I have missed!!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:13 pm by PrettyFeetsMom
Monkey Madness wrote:
DeDe wrote:#7: Female, Ms Purple, 4:30pm No weight yet.
Prple Dobe what is Gail up to
Thanks for the updates Nellie and Dede. I look forward to some pics Gail when time allows/
That's is one of those VERY RARE Purple Dobes, geesh can't believe you've never heard of those, LMAO , so can we tell us the real color please !!!!
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Posted Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:33 pm by Penkeepe
11: pm UPDATE
Jaz is holding at 7 delivered pups. There is one that is holding up the works and Jaz just can't get it out so she and Gail are on their way to the vet. Stay tuned for Gail's report in the morning.
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:56 am by Apollo
PrettyFeetsMom wrote:
Monkey Madness wrote:
DeDe wrote:#7: Female, Ms Purple, 4:30pm No weight yet.
purple Dobe what is Gail up to
Thanks for the updates Nellie and Dede. I look forward to some pics Gail when time allows/
That's is one of those VERY RARE Purple Dobes, geesh can't believe you've never heard of those, LMAO , so can we tell us the real color please !!!!
\Ms purple was black
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:57 am by Apollo
Penkeepe wrote:11: pm UPDATE
Jaz is holding at 7 delivered pups. There is one that is holding up the works and Jaz just can't get it out so she and Gail are on their way to the vet. Stay tuned for Gail's report in the morning.
OMG hope everything is ok, just got back home and looking for an update
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:42 am by PrettyFeetsMom
ATTENTION.........HOT OFF THE PRESS .......Gail's Big Adventure !!!
Proud Parents Jazmine & Baron Welcome a baker's dozen !!!
#1-black girl
#2-black boy
#3-brown girl
#4-black boy
#5-black boy
#6-black boy
#7-black girl
#8- brown girl that was stuck in the pipe, did not survive
#9-black boy
#10-brown boy
#11-brown boy
#12-black boy born at 2:38, Gail thought this probably was the last but Jaz had other ideas.
And finally last but not least:
Lucky #13-black girl born @ 3:18 a.m
After # 8 was removed the rest slid down the pipe just fine avoiding a C-Cection Jaz is doing great....very tired but well....Way to go Jaz !!!
So unless Gail tells me otherwise, this is Lisa signing out from live puppy feed !!!
So with it now being 3:36 in the morning and Gail just leaving the vet.....PLEASE let her make first contact this morning after so very well deserved rest.
HEAVENS TO BETSY.....Gail just called, they x-rayed Jaz and looks like Jaz ain't finished yet ! #14 is about 1/2 way from it's arrival. Will update with details when Gail makes it back to her car and on the way home. Looks like to sun will be rising before she makes it home !!!
ý# 14 brown girl born around 5:15 a.m THE END
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:13 am by Penkeepe
Thanks Lisa - thank goodness no C-section was needed. Poor Gail and Jaz, they must be pooped.
Is this one of those cases of 'be careful what you ask for'??
CONGRATULATIONS TO GAIL AND JAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It will be fun to watch these little ones grow.
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:33 am by RavenandDamon
Congratulations to Gail, Jaz and Baron!!! WOW WOW WOW on all those browns!!!! Gail will have 2 brown girls to pick from!!!
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:55 am by Deathmetal
Congrats on all the cute pups!
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:17 am by Rits
Congrats Gail and Jaz! That's a lotta pups!! Can't wait to see pics when you're all well rested and caught up.
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Posted Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:31 am by Damasyn
And now the hard part begins lol . Congrats ! and my sympathies
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Posted Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:57 pm by TrinityDobes
I am back among the living... sort of *lol* besides feeling like I was hit by a bus I am doing well -n Jaz is doing an amazing job looking after this HUGE family of 13 puppies - for a first time mom - she read the book! Thank goodness. We did loose the one little girl but what a blessing of great abundance to have everyone else come through in great condition - we are on the rotation schedule switching pups every hour today -
Thank you to my secretary Lisa on taking the over the telephone reports from the front line at the ER hospital!!!
I don't know who groaned louder me, the vet or Jaz when the "just to be sure we are done xray" revealed we had one more puppy in there!
So the adventure continued after poor Lisa had gone to bed!!! another shot of oxytocin was given and last but not least Lucky #14 - a brown girl born at 4:20 am!!
we have a total of 4 girls - 2 black/rust and 2 brown/rust (I am keeping one of these brown girls)
we have a total of 9 boys - 7 black/rust adn 2 brown/rust
I was totally shocked and beyond pleased with the arrival of brown pups its been over 10 years since my last brown puppies!! it was such a wonderful surprise! here is a photo of the whole litter taken this am
and for those on FB I am uploading photos pretty www.trinitydobermans.com/Jaz_Puppy_Photos.php
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Posted Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:23 pm by Cathynu
Wowie congratulations to Gail and new mom ..... I know you felt blessed after they'd all arrived and everyone was doing well!!! Jaz looks like such a good mom .... sure got her paws full!!
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Posted Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:31 pm by BreesMom
Such a nice picture of Mom and babies...just a beautiful BIG litter!!!! And you at last have your brown pup ....that Jazz was just FULL of suprises
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Posted Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:13 pm by Damasyn
Hhehehe, now she can start working on her girlish figure again lol awwwwww