Practicing for the ring photo

[doberdelight]

Heres a pic of Kora practicing for the show ring. She has done well in puppy classes/groups but shes a big girl now at 15 months.
Please let me know what you think. thanks


and for a laugh heres Cayden. If i could just get lots of weight on him I think he could maybe just pull it off.

[von Cosack]

First off the photo tends to show her muzzle top tilting downward but I'll guess her plain is along the same plain as her head. (you want a profile not any angles in a pic) She looks Roman nosed abit but theres times in the history of the breed when its not considered a fault. Neck length is good and her shoulder is sufficient as to euro standards. Shes standing easty/westy with her right front leg but her leg is long and strong and her front paws are nice. Her top line looks correct but movement would tell the truths for that. Nice strong croup and tail set looks fine. Her rear angulation is good and her front to rear pastern look strong and correct. I don't like her rear toes, they seem to be splayed but it maybe how her paws are set down. She has a balanced overall look and her color is ok ( Iprefer darker colors) A pic from straight on would allow a comment on her front and a sit would help with her chest. Some would like more depth but I think hers is ok and with maturity she'll show a little more depth and abit more width but thats also genetics as she grows and not knowing the backline its guessing at best. Set her paws first and keep her head straight she doesn't have a puppy look anymore and I'll guess she should do well. Best dear! Nice to see ya again too! Von.

[DeDe]

Thank you Von for the detailed points. I like her looks. And it appears that you've been practicing, Lynz!!!

[doberdelight]

thanks guys.

Von her back feet look bad in this pic. They arent really like that. Im not sure if its because she was on a slight hill that they are splayed.
I like darking markings too:) and hers seem to be getting lighter which i personally dont like as much.

I will get you a front on pic tomorrow:)

Dede want the truth? Thats the first time she has been stacked or I have attemptedto stack her since Christmas! , Hence the hand on her neck, She was trying to chase cayden

[von Cosack]

Sometimes weird things pop up from 3 to 4 generations back and we say where the hell did that come from. I can remember my Uncle seeing a cow lick ever so often and swearing about some dog in the backlines that had it and passed along every once in a while. Structure and temperament far out weigh color and markings but its a stickler of mine, not sure why. Send the pics and I will offer a few suggestions for Cayden Man for adding some weight. I'm sure you've tried most but maybe we can help.
Von.

[von Cosack]

The easiest foods to help with weight are pasta and potato! Can't overdue them but every other day using about a cup to 10oz. of cubed potato squares. Cooked through and if theres no weight after 4 weeks I'd try the pasta using the same amounts for a 4 week period again paying attention to stools and no water or exercising after feeding for atleast an hour.
I'll guess you already checked him out at the vets? Is he intact if so he maybe burning up everything hes putting on. I don't like when the weight is missing from all over the body, hes very shy in the rib area and doesn't have much muscle tone. Are you training him in anything specific? Von

[doberdelight]

hello Von

I will try him with the pasta! He wont eat potato of any sort. I have given him pasta but not frequently.

Hes intact and all ok from the vet. His 2 brothers are the same:(
He runs around crazy all day and never stops. He has been this thin from a pup and hasnt ever kept on weight.. his weight in numbers is ok though. hes 79lb so not to light as such.

will try the pasta though im sure he'll love getting that. thanks

[von Cosack]

Pull back on the running time also, hes probably running some weight off. At 79 hes not really that bad but the rib cage needs to be covered up to the last rib. Find an inexpensive pasta and use it every other day and maybe start with a small amount and try to build it up as you go along.
Reschedule his exercise time, thats a must give him some down time to relax. I know its hard for some dogs but its a must for him to get to a better body weight. At about 26 months he should be naturally adding some weight from all of his maturation. I see it in all males at that age some show 5 to 6 pounds others just a pound or two. My dog Pudg is at 4 years now (feb) and he did the same at that age and again at 4 to 5 years is the last maturation process when the head broadens and their expression chances into a "male adult". Thats the look I like! Von

[HEXE- TINA]

ever tried the satin balls to put some weight on him ? Those work wonders normaly.


"Satin Ball" recipe for dogs who won't eatThis recipe is for dogs who desperately need calories and need to put on weight, but who have no appetite. It sounds yucky, but when these are done they are really appealing, even to me.
In my experience, this is a kind of "last resort and hope" food that many sick dogs will eat.

Mix all ingredients (like meatballs). I shape them like thick hamburgers rather than balls because they store easier in the freezer and thaw faster. Freeze in serving portion size. Nothing is cooked -- all ingredients are uncooked RAW and "Satin Balls" are served raw.
This recipe for Little Dogs (1/10 of full recipe) would be a good test to see if your dog will eat them before you make the substantial investment in ingredients of the half or full size recipe. See Notes below about the Total cereal, oats, wheat germ and vegetable oil.


Satin Balls for Little Dogs -- or to try out recipe on your dog to see if he will eat it.
1 lb cheap hamburger (for high fat %)
1 and 1/3 cups Total cereal
1 and 1/2 cups uncooked oatmeal
1 raw egg
6 Tablespoons wheat germ
1 package Knox unflavored gelatin
2 Tablespoons vegetable oil
2 Tablespoons unsulphered molasses
Pinch of salt

Satin Balls Half Recipe -- recommended amount to mix up
5 lbs cheap hamburger (for high fat %)
1/2 large box Total cereal (about 6 cups cereal)
1/2 large box uncooked oatmeal (about 7.5 cups oats)
5 raw eggs
1/2 of 15oz jar wheat germ (about 2 cups)
5 packages Knox unflavored gelatin
5/8 cup vegetable oil (this is pretty close to 2/3 cup)
5/8 cup unsulphered molasses
pinch of salt
The half recipe, using hamburger that is 20% fat calories, has 12,400 calories. The last batch I made ended up making 22 patties, so each has about 560 calories. I have big dogs (Danes) so if your dog is smaller you might want to make your Satin Balls or patties smaller.
I find that making the half recipe is so much easier that it is worth doing even though you have half-boxes of things around for awhile and have to mix it up twice as often. The disadvantage of the full recipe is the need of a really BIG container and it is very hard work to mix it all up.

Satin Balls Full Recipe
10 lbs cheap hamburger (high fat %)
1 large box Total cereal (about 12 cups cereal)
1 large box uncooked oatmeal (about 15 cups oats)
10 raw eggs
1 15oz jar wheat germ
10 packages Knox unflavored gelatin
1 and 1/4 cup vegetable oil
1 and 1/4 cup unsulphered molasses
pinch of salt



Notes:
"Whole Wheat Total" cereal (blue box) comes in large 1 lb 2 oz size (about 12 cups settled) and a smaller 12 oz size (about 8 cups cereal), which would work in Little Dog or Half Recipe. But in the long run, the large size is more economical. Don't get Raisin Total or Lo Carb Total.
Uncooked Oatmeal like "Quaker Old Fashioned Oats" and less expensive supermarket house brand, come in large 2 lb 10oz size (15 cups oats) or smaller 18 oz size (about 7 cups oats).
15oz jar of wheat germ is about 4 cups. Some stores only carry a 12oz jar of wheat germ, which contains about 3 and 1/4 cups of it.
Vegetable oil -- use a good one. I use grapeseed oil, olive oil would be next best.
Tip: I don’t break the eggs directly into the pot of stuff. The first time I broke the eggs into a separate little bowl for some reason. One of the eggs was bad and it would have ruined the whole pot of stuff. I had never seen an egg like that and had no reason to expect it, but I never break eggs directly into anything anymore.
The Satin Ball patties were what Duke started eating when he wouldn’t eat anything at all after his torsion surgery. He still gets one a day. It is important to stick to the proportions. I gave the recipe to someone whose dog wouldn’t eat, she told me she made them but he wouldn’t eat them. Then she told me what she did to the recipe, changing it so much that it ended up something entirely different (no wonder her dog wouldn't eat it). You need to follow the recipe carefully if you are going to go to the trouble and expense of making it