Dobermann Cardiac TROPONIN I (cTnI) Testing Scheme

[Nellie]

We really need to get the DPCA or some other organization behind this to make it available here in the USA. Let's get the word out!

Cross posted from 'Save the Dobermann Breed!' from FB:

AN IMPORTANT BREAKTHROUGH!! Bitten Jönsson have developed a test that have now been adopted by the The Dobermann Breed Council in the UK. Bitten's test measures levels of lactate levels in Dobermanns and offers a high probability answer to whether the dogs is most likely to develope DCM or not. Due to the test being recommended from 12 months of age this is perfect for breeders to adopt as 'Best Practice' in their breeding programmes. Bitten has been relying on this test for over 20 years, resulting ZERO DCM incidents in her breeding and now this test is available for everyone through The Dobermann Breed Council. I encourage everyone to send samples to The Dobermann Breed Council and read more about this here: www.dobermannbreedcouncil.co.uk/troponin.html

With over 20 years of zero DCM breeding results, I would HIGHLY ENCOURAGE everyone SPECIALLY breeders to take this test. Please share and cross-post!

[HEXE- TINA]

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[Nellie]

Congrats to our own Bitten!! Bitten has been waiting a long time to get this test recognized for the love of our breed!!

[Shadowlands]

I think this is fabulous news and a fantastic stride towards combating DCM from our breed!! Someone give this woman a freaking hug!! Thank you Bitten for all your hard work and years of determination to achieve this for all of us.

[Shadowlands]

I have shared this on my FB page, another group on FB that I am on, my website (still working on that) and most importantly, I sent the link etc to the DPCC correspondance secretary. I know it is her job to make sure the right person gets whatever information comes in. I did mention in the email that they can share this information as a mass email to all members too. The more people who know, the better chances we have in adopting this test in North America.

[trinitydobes]

D4E is a DPCA member and on the legislative committee - maybe she can help get this to the right people on the board of directors or to every board of directors to see if they would get behind making this test be available here in the US!!

Even if it won't predict progeny - it would be amazing to be able to test your prospective breeding dogs and the pups they produce as well -

I think this is the one we've been waiting for -a definitive predictive test as to a dogs future DCM risk.

Good Job Bitten, very well done and thank you for all the work you have done and continue to do for the breed

[trouble]

I really think we need to get things more correct .... don't know why Ayman has presented these news in the way he has - but ...
1: I have not developed a test - I have mrely proposed a test => possible biomarker, which should be able to give indication of whether or not a dog might be able to develope DCm = be pre disposed towards this problem.
2: This proposed test has been accepted for further research, and the testing which now has started in the UK, contain of 2 tests
a: cTnI
b: the proposed test
both these tests are being supported by the Dobermann Breeding Counsil in the UK, and in that order.
3: The test results from these test will be compared, and also compared to the factual clinical results which might be available.
4: The testing in the UK is the first place testing will be taken place. After evaluation of the results, and they are in accordance to the estimations made through the proposed paper, testing will be officially available, and the paper presented will be published.
5: All testing will be supervised by the University of Liverpool / Dr. Joanne Dukes-McEwan - professor in cadioligy.
In other words - let's make small steps, and hopefully only forward.

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I can't stress enough - the wording used in regard to the incidents of DCM we might have had, is not correct - should be "to our knowledge we haven't had incidents of DCM" - To us/me that makes a huge difference, and I hope you understand the difference.
Aside from that - it was brought to our knowledge this very evening, that there might be one of our offspring born after 1996, and which might have died due to DCM - I am awaiting further and correct information in regard to this. I would also like to state, that this is the very first we have heard in regard to this, regardless that it has been said, that the owner should have contacted us, and that we have never replied - this is not accurate. We have not recieved any information until this evening, and I have as said, asked for further details.

Finally, I will not accept to be hold responsible for what other people write or state - but I will, and in public try and ammend the errors stated.

[DeDe]

Thank you very much for the corrections and update, Bitten! It's still a HUGE leap for the dobermann community as a whole!
I can't thank you enough for all of your own research and hard work into trying to help with such a huge issue in the breed today!!!

[trinitydobes]

Bitten I agree with DeDe! and thank you for the corrections.

This new test that you have helped make possible is the most accurate test we now have - I just hope we can get the DPCA to make this test available here in the US!

and even if there is 1 dog in 20 years that had DCM as the cause of death - Bitten it may not have been a genetical cause - there is research and proof that there are environmental causes. No one can touch your programs record of only 1.. possible.... undocumented..... case of death due to DCM. Your program has still set the bar for health and being DCM free.

[trouble]

"Testing at Northeastern Counties Champ Show 18.9.11 for Troponin I [cTnI] and Lactate Test for research purposes - by Dr Jo Dukes McEwan from Liverpool Uni and Mr Graham Bilbrough of Idexx Lab."

[dobs4ever]

Ok just goes to show how I need to slow down - I posted it to UDC and DPCA then I read down where there is not a test then there is a test. Am I misreading? Is there a ligetimate test or just that we need one. I think everyone will agree we need one.

DPCA will surely get behind it with all the work and money they have invested in health research for the Doberman breed.

[Shadowlands]

I forgot to post here that I shared this information with the DPCC and I have heard back that these findings and the test, although only available in the U.K. right now, is being presented before the Board end of this week, early next.
Although it is still early days, even delving deeper into the current test is a step towards adopting this and any future tests in North America.

[trouble]

Great news ...

Perhaps they should contact Dr. Joanne Dukes-McEwan at Liverpool Vet University - might be able to get some directions connected to testing

[Shadowlands]

Aug 25, 2011 10:33:31 GMT -5 dobs4ever said:

Ok just goes to show how I need to slow down - I posted it to UDC and DPCA then I read down where there is not a test then there is a test. Am I misreading? Is there a ligetimate test or just that we need one. I think everyone will agree we need one.

DPCA will surely get behind it with all the work and money they have invested in health research for the Doberman breed.

Suzan, there are two tests being tested but neither are available to the anywhere but the U.K. They will be comparing the results of these two tests before they can officially say they have a test. That is my take on this, and if I am incorrect, I assume someone will let me know.

[trouble]

I have started the countdown ... on the 18th of September, testing is starting, and results will follow - Christian or Pegan, prey that the results are in accordance to our expectations ...

Thank's